@Veronique Montreuil I guess my question are there maturity characteristics of customers that are more characteristic of the march to hyper-scalers and what unique value can you provide. I don't know the Google, Azure story as well as AWS. But, if they are anything like AWS some traditional things you might compete on are difficult as they are very anti-friction. You have to dig deep otherwise you become like a step in the educational system and you understand that they eventually will graduate from your school(service).